G. LeBlanc System Rationale Tenor Saxophone
Price: $2,899.00
- Year: ~1969 (~1963-1970) (see below)
- Make: LeBlanc
- Model: LeBlanc System Rationale - Model 120
- Status: For Sale
- Finish: Original, 90%+
- Serial Number: 739 (late era)
(On Consignment - Plays "ok", needs some minor repairs to get to low end past D)
One of the coolest saxophones ever made! - Made to solve most all of the "saxophone issues" such as stuffy notes, trouble intonation areas and note passages.
SPECS: The sax is in fantastic shape overall but does have a few small bumps to mention: a dent to rear bow near Eb ("chair ding" location). There are two(2) missing guard screws (backside Opt F# guard) to mention (this is a trend FYI!)- ALL 11x NUTS ARE PRESENT!--wow. All screw-in resonators are present also! This sax's known history: It is owned by the 2nd Owner who bought it used in 1979/80 for $600.00 and used it through high school/college until 1988. It has been stored ever since.
BONUS: two mouthpieces included in the sale.
- TENOR: Wolfe Tayne, ' Metal Slimline - 9* ' - tip: 0.100"
- TENOR: Claude Lundt, ' plastic ' (M+M reface, needs repairs) - tip: 0.082"
WWS Research: Data would suggest that there were less than 750 (alto and tenor) ever made. The design with intonation and evenness with tone hole venting was also so engineered that it has mass amounts of screw adjusters (Add $300+ to a rebuild price for such; more pads, more adjustments like a Conn 26M/30M...). I have seen multiple variations on this model as they may have made changes along the design (different neck emblems, octave keys..., most notable -- You can compare it to Sarge's Collection LeBlanc too; at #513 it had a different neck altogether! I won't list all of those variables.)
In Sarge's words: "This is an amazing and rare pro horn with the unique Leblanc mechanism, where the G# tone hole is at the rear and all the front pads remain open - the fingerings possible on a Leblanc are far more versatile than a conventional sax allowing for easier transitions in what are usually difficult passages - as well as multiple false fingerings and a greater range of altissimo fingerings. The Leblanc has a strong individual voice and speaks extremely well, one of the great advantages of the system is that normally stuffy notes like middle D and E speak with a clear open voice - the uniformity throughout the range is simply achievable in any other horn. "
Other notables:
- gold plated springs
- LH high F#/trill key!
- backside G#
- heavy construction
- screw + locking nut adjusters; ALL there!
- two-tone model
- post construction (some are brazed directly on the body!)
- jump keys(trills)
Confession: Serial number dating information on these is a bit low; considering how cool these are, I wish we sax-community members would build this one up along with all the variations that I've seen. Some will say 1950s, some 1960s. It's pretty safe to say that its era is in the range of 1963-1972. With extensive research, there have been original receipts of a #549 purchased in 1963, thus, my era guess on this one is ~1969.
Additional Research: With combined research from S. Meier, at the time of this post, we have traced about 185 LeBlanc/Vito/Beaugnier saxes from serial numbers #100-1400. Of the 186 we have documented, only 30 are these "Model 120" tenors (64 were altos "Model 100"). Some sax forum rumors discuss that there were less than 1500 of these made(alto and tenor). I would conclude that the dating of LeBlancs was inconsistent! These are far more rare than "1,500" out there. I suggest that: 94/186 is about a 50% sample rate. Apply that to Serial #100-1400, = 1300 total, and you have 750 as an adjusted, estimated quantity ever made... now apply the alto-to-tenor ratio of 31%, that means:
Only 200-400 "Model 120" tenors exist.
WEIGHT: 3.60kg/7.94lbs! Rather heavy at nearly 8lbs!
SOUND: Big, resonant, loud but centered core, controllable power, focus yet depth....
Chadd Comment: "They remind me of a SML Rev D/GM crossed with a Buffet S1!"
PADS: the setup is currently in original setup! (I love that) with old pads and screw in resonators (must be reused; highly suggested). It plays surprisingly well as is! and you may want to keep it this way.
CASE: Original LeBlanc case in good condition. (several style variations on these.)
For other fun research, I have also enjoyed Goodson's post on this sax here: LeBlanc Rationale Saxophone Literature.
Sound Files on Leblancs:
Actual Sax in TRACK 1
- 1.TENORsX4- BLIND_LeblancRationale-model120_Selmer new large bore, B400THC-BSuper400- -on Marble rubber Berg Larsen 108-2-SMS, SOUND FILE 2024-016:57
- 2.TENORs-52Super20_51SMLrevD_50sLeBlan5:15
- 3.TENORs 4x: 1973 Selmer #216k, 1964 LeBlanc Rationale #790, 1955 Conn 10M #566k, 1955 Buescher AristoIV-157 #356k on MPC: Noblet N2 0.090", Sound File 11-2019























































