Selmer 1988 ‘USA – 164/TS100’ Bb Tenor, #828,040 (Archived)

1980s Selmer "USA" [Professional] TS100 Tenor

Price: SOLD
  • Year:  1987-90
  • Make:  Selmer
  • Model: USA Omega 164/TS100 (~1986-93)
  • Status: SOLD (DM)
  • Finish: Original Lacquer
  • Serial Number: 828,040

(On Consignment - Plays good)

Late era Selmer USA tenor - One of the secret gems in the whole sax world! These are great tenors for a player on a "budget". Let me restate that: a Advanced/Pro, Selmer, Tenor... for under $3,000. That is a very hard thing to offer. This model has rear body tube engraving, perhaps a deluxe offering on this one as not all USA models received this.

There is evidence of past neck pull down (repaired 90%). It shouldn't be a deal breaker. The neck strap ring also shows some heavy wear too. This can be updated/replaced or at minimum take the advice to not use a metal neckstrap. There two dents to point out near Eb guard foot and a smaller one on the tube nearby. The bell lip also shows some denting lip repairs. (These can be addressed pending your order requests.)

CASE: used Protec Propac, hard wrap case (blue) in good condition.

PADS: tan pads with large metal domed resonators. Old pads. They played better than expected! Newest ones at: Bb1, B1, C1, C#1, & B2.

Serial #828k, Original lacquer finish at 85%.

SELMER USA RESEARCH:

A bit of historical discussion(with added sax forum research): Arguments over the true Omega Model 162 alto (164 as tenor) saxes (note that "Omega" nor "162" nor "AS100" was ever engraved on the saxes) may be different than the AS100 models that followed. The main noticeable differences were the engraving change, the high F# change from brass to pearl, and the thumbhook from brass to plastic. From there the AS110 changed the Front F from pearl to a teardrop. Earlier models #820k-#823k, somewhere in the ~#824,xxx these changes appeared.(LINK) There is also a plausible case for a change in lacquer hue on the non-silver models.

Discrepancies for needed research: a fellow claims to have had a pearl F# on his #821K bought in 1984 (LINK). Perhaps the original Model 162 Omega was only a brief set of numbers - or perhaps there was some overlap! How long did the Omega/AS110 run go?... the chatter suggests about #829K(I've seen 0,830K) and thus until about 1993.  The oldest serial number that I have seen anyone claim a #0,830K sax from this run; it was a tenor - AND note that it had a "0" placed before the numbers! = "0830307" (also seen listed/sold through CEWinds). (All of this should be expected to apply to the tenor versions, Model 164 and TS100)

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